Debaters Identity. Bible's take on Debaters

Islamic Debaters, their Identity: 
What does the Bible say? 


This is some of the major Islamic debaters who at anytime can capture the attention and shred through the scriptures to disprove things Christians put forth. Bible on the other hand clearly warns us on the False prophets and religions in the times to come. The scripture reveals to every Christian. 


No Christian is aware of the Historical, Archaeological, Scriptural, facts of the Bible. There have been excavations based on the Bible, researches, scientific facts all pointing towards the truth. However one can argue or counter these heresies, only with a full knowledge of the Bible and / or with the power of the Holy Spirit. 

Quran states that the God of Muhammad is the greatest deceiver.

Qur'an 8:30
Arabic: واذ يمكر بك الذين كفروا ليثبتوك او يقتلوك او يخرجوك ويمكرون ويمكر الله والله خير الماكرينLiteral: And when those who disbelieved deceive/scheme at you to affix/affirm you, or kill you, or bring you out, and they scheme/deceive , and God deceives/schemes and God (is) best (of) the deceivers/schemers.

Agreeing to the Quran; Bible says in Revelation 20:10
and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

The above should settle every debate; the debaters are deceived themselves and are set to deceive many from the world. Now, why would any Christian want to believe a self proclaimed deceiver? If you do not have the complete knowledge of scriptures you will not sustain but become deceived yourself and the Revelations 20:10 will apply to you.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS?

Matthew 7:15-20
15Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
2 Corinthians 11:4
4For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
13For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
Galatians 1:6-9
6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
7Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
1 Timothy 4
1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
2 Peter 3
1This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:
2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:
3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
1 John 4
4 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, 3 and every spirit that does not confess that[a] Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.
Jude 1
16These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.
17But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
18How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
19These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
20But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
21Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
Romans 10:2-4
2For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
3For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
4For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

THE DEBATERS

The fundamental question is very simple; who is anybody to discount the Bible, the Bible does not need any references to anything outside, they are not copied and do not absolutely need any other scripture support. The Bible written by 42 Prophets and Apostles over a period of thousands of years with multi-referenced archaeological evidences maintained in Museums, carbon dated from Jordan, Yemen, Israel and many more. All further validated by the Dead sea scrolls, varied codex, etc., All Historical, Archaeological, Scriptural evidences abound, this is the original book of God.

Hear ye' slayers of the scriptures, sprouting venom, taking out segments of the scriptures and debating, wont the pages of the Qur'an reveal that these step up and challenge the God of creation; Muhammad himself in the Qur'an has directed his followers thus...

2:136 Say ye: "We believe in Allah and the revelation given to us and to Abraham Isma'il Isaac Jacob and the Tribes and that given to Moses and Jesus and that given to (all) Prophets from their Lord we make no difference between one and another of them and we bow to Allah (in Islam)."

2: 285 The Apostle believeth in what hath been revealed to him from his Lord as do the men of faith. Each one (of them) believeth in Allah His angels His books and His Apostles "We make no distinction (they say) between one and another of His Apostles." And they say: "We hear and we obey; (We seek) Thy forgiveness Our Lord and to Thee is the end of all journeys."

3: 3 It is He Who sent down to thee (step by step) in truth the Book confirming what went before it; and He sent down Law (Of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus) before this as a guide to mankind and He sent down the Criterion (of judgment between right and wrong).

*** In this verse the Qur'an makes no distinction between Allah's revelations; that is they are ALL true and uncorrupted *** Although this I reference only to highlight what Quran sayeth.

3: 93 All food was lawful to the children of Israel except what Israel made unlawful for itself before the Law (of Moses) was revealed. Say: "Bring ye the Law and study it if ye be men of truth."

*** In the particular case above, the Qur'an implies that the Children of Israel 'corrupted' some of Allah's commands BEFORE the revelations to Moses and NOT AFTER *** Since the followers of Muhammad are certain that the People of the Book had deliberately corrupted their Books, then the onus is on them to show the original uncorrupted ones upon which they base their purile and unsubstantiated allegations ***

6: 91 No just estimate of Allah do they make when they say: "Nothing doth Allah send down to man (by way of revelation)": Say: "Who then sent down the Book which Moses brought? a light and guidance to man: but ye make it into (separate) sheets for show while ye conceal much (of its contents): therein were ye taught that which ye knew not neither ye nor your fathers." Say: "Allah (sent it down)": then leave them to plunge in vain discourse and trifling.

6:92 And this is a Book which We have revealed bringing blessings and confirming (the revelations) which came before it: that thou mayest warn the Mother of Cities and all around her. Those who believe in the Hereafter believe in this (Book) and they are constant in guarding their prayers.

*** It would defy logic and intellect to believe that the Qur'an would use 'corrupted' Books as confirmation of its own authenticity.***

No where does the Qur'an EVER imply that the TEXTS of the Scriptures of the People pf the Book had been tampered with or CORRUPTED.

Since this is the case, then any alleged corruptions would have happened AFTER the Quranic 'revelations'. If so, then the Muhammadan accusers have an unenviable intellectual, theological and historical MAGICAL ACT to perform in proving that the Bible was corrupted.

BIBLICAL CORRUPTION ALLEGATIONS

It was Ibn Khazem (1064) who was the first Muhammadan to charge that the Bible has been corrupted and falsified by the followers of Moses and Jesus.

This charge was made in a last ditch and desperate effort to defend 'Islam' against Christianity because he came upon the many serious and unexplainable contradictions and differences between the Qur'an and the Bible.

Believing by faith that the Qur'an is true and incorruptible, Ibn Khazem had no choice but to come to the conclusion that then it must be the CURRENT Bible that is false and untrue especially since Muhammad instructed his followers to respect the Bible in the first place.

Therefore, the present text must have been falsified by the Christians and the Jews after the time of Muhammad. His conclusions and arguments are not based on any historical facts but entirely upon his unshakable faith in the truthfulness and divine origin of the Qur'an.

Many other exegetes, did not accept or agree with his conclusions among whom are many of the luminaries of 'Islam' such as:

1. Ali al Tabari (d 855) who accepted the Gospel texts
2. Al Bukhari (810-870)
3. Al Mas'udi (956)
4. Abu Ali husain bin Sina (1037)
5. Al Ghazali (1111) who did not accept his teachings
6. Ibn Khaldun (1406) ditto.

In reality it is not up to the People of the Book to prove their Book is uncorrupted but up to the Muhammadans to do so based on any 'original' book that would show these corruptions. The interpreters of the Quran repeatedly denigrate and accuse both the Jews and Christians of having tampered with and or 'corrupted' their Holy Books to suit their - with as yet unexplained and unidentified - nefarious purposes. These evil, mendacious and unsubstantiated accusations were in fact introduced to cover up the incredibly huge number of unexplained and irreconcilable differences in both the Quran and its interpretations with the same events as described in their original versions in the Bible and Scriptures.

Hence, with an extremely simple and general sentence they, the followers of Muhammad, attempt to dismiss and gloss over all these discrepancies as items that have been deliberately - and presumably with diabolical pre meditation- modified by the Jews and Christians to deprive Muhammad and his followers of their 'rightful' place among the Divinely revealed scriptures.

Unfortunately for the accusers of the Bible, it can be easily demonstrated that in all its relevant verses, the Quran declares the Bible to be a true revelation of Allah and demands faith in it such as can be shown in the following Suras which presuppose the availability of the true revelation of Allah to the Arabs at the time of Muhammad:

2:40/1,129,136,285; 3:3,71,93; 4:47/51,69,70; 5:44; 6:91/2; 10:37,94; 21:7; 29:45/51; 35:31/2; 46:12.

CONCLUSION

First every Christian should understand that followers of Muhammad are not in way going to enter into the kingdom of God and Jesus Christ as in the Bible; they will enter into the kingdom of Muhammad and what is written in the Quran. A fantasy land overflowing with fruits, food and virgin women. This is not my saying; its in the Quran. The paradise in Quran is a place that is described in the Quran thus;

MUHAMMAD'S PARADISE IN QURAN
QURAN 55 Hilali Khan
055:068 In them (both) will be fruits, and date- palms and pomegranates.
055:069 Then which of the Blessings of your Lord will you both (jinns and men) deny?
055:070 Therein (gardens) will be fair (wives) good and beautiful;
055:071 Then which of the Blessings of your Lord will you both (jinns and men) deny?
055:072 Houris (beautiful, fair females) restrained in pavilions;
055:073 Then which of the Blessings of your Lord will you both (jinns and men) deny?
055:074 Whom no man or jinn yatmithhunna (has opened their hymens with sexual intercourse) before them.
055:075 Then which of the Blessings of your Lord will you both (jinns and men) deny?
055:076 Reclining on green cushions and rich beautiful mattresses.
055:077 Then which of the Blessings of your Lord will you both (jinns and men) deny?
055:078 Blessed be the Name of your Lord (Allah), the Owner of Majesty and Honour.

What ever said and done every follower of Muhammad strives to get into the paradise as assured in the Quran. The kingdom of God in the Bible is completely different from the paradise of Quran. I need to seek forgiveness from God for publishing such vile and vulgar narrations of Paradise. My heart burns and yearns for the truth; for some man has described god as a creator and supplier this filth. Why cant you decide? why cant you see the vileness and corruption of the very nature of God? God is not so cheap creating harems for his followers

BIBLICAL KINGDOM OF GOD [Refuting Lust in Heaven]
Luke 20:34-36
34 And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.

God must have a good reason for keeping us Christians wondering about the mysteries of heaven. Perhaps our finite minds could never comprehend the realities of eternity. Yet the Bible does reveal several truths about the afterlife.

Psalm 23:6
6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the Lord for ever.
2 Corinthians 5:8
We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

So the debaters are wooed into this scripture and the Quran has given a responsibility to their God in providing them these carnal and absolutely earthly lust filled, belly filled paradise.

WHAT IS IN FOR THE DEBATERS
You need a basic qualification to debate; you cannot debate and pitch the Word of God against the Word of Man claiming it to be the revelation of God when all the revelations therein were nothing new but pre-existing. Replications over Perspiration cannot be Revelations of Inspiration. The only new things in the book in contention is the pagan rituals of the moon God, the inclusion of the pagan ritual of circling the kaaba and many such. The word of God should never be compared or placed with such text. Quoting the scriptures...

"strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers" (II Timothy 2:14)
"But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. And their word will eat as doth a canker..." (II Timothy 2:16-17) "But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes." (II Timothy 2:23)
"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him. Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit." (Proverbs 26:4-5)

These debaters need to understand that Christians who are saved and baptized in water and fire have a Kingdom of God beyond all carnal pleasures and go to serve the Lord God. Not "de-flower" women [as in the Quran]. God is never cheap. In fact the Satan in the Bible is the God in the Quran [REFER ARTICLE].

I sincerely hope and pray that these thoughts that seed into your cranium will someday help you understand the truth. take Archaeology, History, Science and all reality with logic, the Bible and the word of God stand out. Quran certainly does not come into the fold of the revelations of the God of Abraham. There is nothing to debate; they follow a different God and we follow the one Almighty God; the mighty one of Israel and who is manifest in word, flesh and in Spirit. Hallelujah for the one God Almighty be the Glory and Amen; his will be done on earth.

"We Serve the Same God". God of Bible vs God of Quran

"We Serve the Same God". Is it?
God of Bible and the God of Quran.

Its often we come across statements from the followers of Muhammad who say that we serve the same God and Allah is the God of Abraham. As always lets dwell deep into the Bible; the Word of God. This Bible as I again repeat was written over a period of thousands of years, with 66 Books and by 42 prophets and apostles all predating Muhammad. 

I would implore the readers to research, dwell deep into the scripture of God and identify the truth. This subject again to plead the cause of  Salvation that Jesus Christ has provided to us if we listen to his Gospel. With deepest agony and a ocean of worry, have researched and placed this article in front of you. This is not for disputing, arguing, debating, but to broadcast the truth as in the Bible. Would sincerely look forward that the Grace of Jesus Christ help you and penetrate your soul while you try to make sense of the scriptures.  Although there have been many scholars and scribes who have placed all the findings and proved that the Satan of the Bible is the God of Quran, this is yet another attempt to informed the less informed and to reveal the truth. 

There are many differences that are between the God of the Bible and the God as depicted in the Quran; it was absolutely surprising that the God as depicted in the Quran was actually the Satan depicted in the Bible. Their properties overlap. I am not listing all the differences but the very basic and easily understandable ones that will surprise you as I was. Let me first open the Bible and the Quran to depict the personality of Satan. The God of the Bible [of Abraham, Issac, Jacob, Noah, Moses, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Zechariah, Melchizedek] is NOT the God of Muhammad; rather the Satan and his attributes as revealed to these prophets is what matches the description of the God of Muhammad as he has written in the Quran.

This statement of stating that Devil or Satan in the Bible is the God in Quran is absolutely damning and is part of the scriptures. This is from the sacred texts and nothing that I had to do except quote and print them here. As in the Bible and as in the Quran. Startling as it is; the Satan and the Devil in the Bible is the God specified by Muhammad in his Quran. Verses from the Quran on the attributes of Allah, the God of Muhammad which is the direct attribute of Satan in the Bible.

Satanic Property:1. Falling Star.

SATAN AS THE STAR IN BIBLE
Revelation 9: 1
And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.

GOD AS THE STAR IN QURAN
Quran 53:49That He is the Lord of Sirius (the Mighty Star); "Waannahu huwa rabbu alshshiAAra"


Satanic Property: 2. Wanted to rise above the throne of God. Greater than God and ascension above the clouds.

BIBLE STATES THAT SATAN WANTED TO BECOME GREATER
Isaiah 14: 13
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

ISLAM STATES ALLAH IS GREATER.
أكبر (Akbar) = Greater; كبير (Kebir) = GreatMuhammad and his followers claim "Allahu Akbar"; we have seen this usually in the media when necks are being sliced, bombs go off the terrorists shouting "Allahu Akbar". This means Greater! Greater than who?

Sahih Bukhari 4:52:195
The Prophet said, Allahu--Akbar! (Allah is Greater) and Khaibar is ruined, for whenever we approach a nation (i.e. enemy to fight) then it will be a miserable morning for those who have been warned."

Satanic Property: 3. Proud One. 

SATAN AS THE ALL PROUD
Isaiah 10:12
I will punish the fruit of the stout [Proud] heart of the king of Assyria, and the glory of his high looks.


ALLAH AS THE ALL PROUD
“Allah says: Pride is My Wear, Supremacy is My Dress, I will break anyone who vies with Me for them and I do not care” (Hadith). The ‘Al-Mutakabbir’ is one of the 99 names of Allah the God of Quran. (AL-MUTAKABBIR)A proud person looks upon everything as mean and servile; he sees all supremacy and pride in himself, so he looks down on everybody, as a king looks upon his subjects. Perfect and absolute pride can only be attributed to Allah. The Prophet, Allah’s Prayers and Peace be upon him, says, “Allah says: Pride is My Wear, Supremacy is My Dress, I will break anyone who vies with Me for them and I do not care” (Hadith). Glory be to the One who rightfully deserves to be called the Most PROUD, He is Allah.

Satanic Property: 4. Son of the Dawn & Morning.

BIBLE CALLS SATAN AS THE SON OF DAWN & MORNING
Isaiah 14:12
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

QURAN CALLS GOD AS THE SON OF DAWN & MORNING
Quran 113:1
Say: I seek refuge with the Lord of the Dawn. From the evil of that which He created "Qul aAAoothu birabbi alfalaqi"

Satanic Property: 5. Full of Glory

BIBLE DETAILS THE SATAN AS FULL OF GLORY
Ezekiel 28:13-14
12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord God; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

QURAN DETAILS THE SATAN AS FULL OF GLORY
Quran 11:73
 They said: "Dost thou wonder at Allah's decree? The grace of Allah and His blessings on you, o ye people of the house! for He is indeed worthy of all praise, full of all glory!"

Satanic Property: 6.  Satan as the one who will Mislead.

BIBLE REVEALS THAT SATAN WILL MISLEAD
Job 12:16
16 With him is strength and wisdom: the deceived and the deceiver are his.
Lamentations 2:14
The visions of your prophets were false and worthless; they did not expose your sin to ward off your captivity. The oracles they gave you were false and misleading.
Jeremiah 38:20-22
They misled you and overcame you— those trusted friends of yours. Your feet are sunk in the mud; your friends have deserted you.

ALLAH WILL MISLEAD, AS WRITTEN IN THE QURAN.
Quran 13:27
The Unbelievers say: "Why is not a sign sent down to him from his Lord?" Say: "Truly Allah leaveth, to stray, whom He will; But He guideth to Himself those who turn to Him in penitence,-

Quran 16:93

If Allah so willed, He could make you all one people: But He leaves straying whom He pleases, and He guides whom He pleases: but ye shall certainly be called to account for all your actions.

Quran 74:31

Thus doth Allah leave to stray whom He pleaseth, and guide whom He pleaseth: and none can know the forces of thy Lord, except He and this is no other than a warning to mankind.

Quran 4:119"

I will mislead them, and I will create in them false desires; I will order them to slit the ears of cattle, and to deface the (fair) nature created by Allah." Whoever, forsaking Allah, takes satan for a friend, hath of a surety suffered a loss that is manifest.

Quran 2:7

Allah hath set a seal on their hearts and on their hearing, and on their eyes is a veil; great is the penalty they (incur).

Quran 35:8

Is he, then, to whom the evil of his conduct is made alluring, so that he looks upon it as good, (equal to one who is rightly guided)? For Allah leaves to stray whom He wills, and guides whom He wills. So let not thy soul go out in (vainly) sighing after them: for Allah knows well all that they do!

Satanic Property: 7.  Satan the Deceiver


SATAN THE DECEIVER AS REVEALED IN THE BIBLE
2 Corinthians 11:3
But I am afraid that as the serpent deceived Eve by his cunning, your thoughts will be led astray from a sincere and pure devotion to Christ.

Revelation 12:9-10
And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world—he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him. And I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, “Now the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ have come, for the accuser of our brothers has been thrown down, who accuses them day and night before our God.

Revelation 20:10
and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

ALLAH THE DECEIVER AS WRITTEN IN QURAN
Qur'an 3:54
Arabic: ومكروا ومكر الله والله خير الماكرينEnglish: And they cheated/deceived and God cheated/deceived, and God (is) the best (of) the cheaters/deceivers.

Qur'an 7:99
Arabic: افامنوا مكر الله فلايامن مكر الله الا القوم الخاسرونEnglish: Did they secure God's scheme/deceit ? So no(one) trusts God's scheme/deceit except the nation the losers.

Qur'an 8:30
Arabic: واذ يمكر بك الذين كفروا ليثبتوك او يقتلوك او يخرجوك ويمكرون ويمكر الله والله خير الماكرينLiteral: And when those who disbelieved deceive/scheme at you to affix/affirm you, or kill you, or bring you out, and they scheme/deceive , and God deceives/schemes and God (is) best (of) the deceivers/schemers.

Qur'an 10:21
Arabic: واذا اذقنا الناس رحمة من بعد ضراء مستهم اذا لهم مكر في اياتنا قل الله اسرع مكرا ان رسلنا يكتبون ماتمكرونEnglish: And if We made the people taste/experience mercy from after calamity/disastrous distress touched them, then for them (is) cheatery/deceit/schemes in Our verses/evidences . Say: "God (is) quicker/faster (in) cunning/scheming , that Our messengers write what you cheat/ deceive/scheme."

Qur'an 13:42
Arabic: وقد مكر الذين من قبلهم فلله المكر جميعا يعلم ماتكسب كل نفس وسيعلم الكفار لمن عقبى الدارEnglish: And those from before them had cheated/deceived/schemed, so to God (is) all the cheatery/deceit/scheme. He knows what every self gains/acquires , and the disbelievers will know to whom (is) the house's/home's end/turn (result).

CONCLUSION

Verse after Verse and Book after Book; again no new inventions, infusions, collages, confusions, integration, inceptions, theories, concoctions, lies, that are here. All the references are direct extract from the two Books of Bible and the Quran. Anyone can conclude that the Satan in the Bible is the God in the Quran; not any man's words other than Muhammad and not any God other than Allah as they are branded, sorted, labelled as Satan by the Bible. Have brought to light, compared and just printed the scriptures. Am pretty sure that we should fear and seek into the scriptures and accept the truth. 


BIBLE FOREWARNS 600 YEARS BEFORE OF ISLAM
Bible further states in the Book of Galatians; Chapter 1 verse 6, I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: verse 7, Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. verse 8, But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. verse 9, As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.Does Galatians refer to the scriptures of Quran? History and archaeology clearly indicates that Quran came a whooping 600 years after Jesus Christ. Bible has predicted that there will be a different Gospel. It was clear in stating "If any man or angel preach any other gospel; let him be accursed". Are we also accursed are we going to leave the true Gospel of Jesus Christ and rush into any accursed scripture that will drag us into the lake of fire?

JESUS CHRIST THE ONLY WAY, TRUTH & LIFE
BIBLE in Colossians 1:13-20 "For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities all things were created by him and for him. He is before all things and in him all things hold together. And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead so that in everything He might have the supremacy. For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him and through him to reconcile to himself all things whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross." Jesus Christ says in John 14:6 "⁶ Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." So if any one else claims that the salvation is through other means; then that makes him a liar and blasphemer against the God Almighty; because God Almighty himself has empowered, powered and is all fulfilling through Jesus Christ. Its clear as crystal, when Jesus says these words here, " no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." "I am the way the Truth and Life." 

MANDATE FOR CHRISTIANS
As the followers of Jesus Christ we have to spread the Good news of Salvation through Jesus Christ. Preach that through Him, we might have our sins atoned for and might receive the eternal life that that had been lost when Adam sinned. The good news that our sins can be forgiven, that they can be blotted out of the record books.Just before his ascension, Jesus gave his disciples this commission: Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has beengiven to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age." Matt. 28:18-20.

If there be any other Gospel given to you by any man or even an Angel; let him be accursed. Again this from the Bible; Galatians; Chapter 1 verse 6.

Christianity is not the Religion of Peace; It is Islam. Is it?

Christianity is not the Religion of Peace.
It is Islam. Is it?

We have been hearing a lot of media talk and top politicians across the world and even in the UN claim and praise Islam as the religion of peace and Christianity is seen as some evil religion that advocates war. 

Let us start looking and referencing the scriptures held in the hands of a Muslim and a Christian. Ignorance is the biggest weapon of Islam as nobody understands the Quran except if you understand Arabic. Even if you know the language, you cannot interpret it without any support of a scholar, hence the words and the meanings do not stand out and reveal themselves to you. There is a lot of digging you got to do.

Am going to take the Bible and the Quran; and place before you now, the actual verses and the words right from the pages as it is. None of the versus in the Bible or Quran were written by me; these are as they are written by the writers of these books. Work of Inspiration or Work of Perspiration! To be researched and concluded. 

JESUS CHRIST, HIS BIBLE & PEACE

Jumping into the Bible first and trying to understand what does Christ and Christianity talk about; war or peace?

Jesus the prince of peace [His qualities prophesied in the Book of Isaiah]

Isaiah 9:6

6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Ephesians 2:13-16 [Jesus is Peace]

13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.

14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;

15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; 

John 14:27 [Divine Peace]

27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.

Luke 6:27-28 [Peace among the nations]

27 But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,

28 Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.

1 Corinthians 12:26 [Peace among the races]

26 And whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it; or one member be honoured, all the members rejoice with it.

Mathew 5:3-12 [Blessings for Peacemakers, Meek, Merciful]

3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

4 Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.

5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.

7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.

8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.

9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

Mathew 5 39-41 [Jesus says not pay evil with evil, but pay evil with good]

39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also.

41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.

Mathew 5 43-48 [Jesus commands to Love Enemies]

43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.

44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?

47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?

48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

MUHAMMAD, HIS ALLAH & WAR

The Qur'an tells Muslims to kill and go to war to fight for Islam: 

Surah 2:191; 2:193; 3:118; 4:75,76; 5:33, 8:12; 8:65; 9:5; 9:73,123; 33:60-62.

Fight for Allah: 

"And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers" (Quran 2:191).

Muslims are to battle for Allah: 

"Those who believe do battle for the cause of Allah; and those who disbelieve do battle for the cause of idols. So fight the minions of the devil. Lo! the devil's strategy is ever weak" (Quran 4:76).

Kill those against Islam: 

"The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter" (Quran 5:33).

Beheading: 

"When thy Lord inspired the angels, (saying): I am with you. So make those who believe stand firm. I will throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Then smite the necks and smite of them each finger. 13That is because they opposed Allah and His messenger. Whoso opposeth Allah and His messenger, (for him) lo! Allah is severe in punishment" (Quran 8:12).

Slay non-Muslims: 

"Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful" (Quran 9:5).

Allah urges war: 

"O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination" (Quran 9:73).

Allah urges war: 

"O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil)" (Quran 9:123).

Allah urges killing: 

"...the hypocrites and those in whose hearts is a disease and the agitators in the city do not desist... 61Cursed: wherever they are found they shall be seized and murdered, a (horrible) murdering. 62(Such has been) the course of Allah with respect to those who have gone before; and you shall not find any change in the course of Allah" (Quran 33:60-62).

Allah loves those who fight for him:

"Truly Allah loves those who fight in His Cause in battle array, as if they were a solid cemented structure" (Surah 61:4). 

KILLING IS NOT CHRISTIANITY AND NOT OF JESUS CHRIST

Most of the Churches today and most of the Christian nations today do NOT reflect this principle and command of Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ said "Love your neighbor as yourself". These Chruches and Nations don't! The Crusaders did not, they killed and certainly do not qualify to hold and read the Bible. If you hold it, read it; if you read it, obey it. So do NOT bring and quote example of Crusaders and Templars; they burn in hell. Killing and Peace do not go together. For such nations, churches and individuals are already mentioned by Jesus Christ. 


Mathew 15
8This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.


Certain sections of the Islamic scholars look upon the Old Testament and state that the war and genocide are authorized in the Bible. We have to understand that Jesus Christ came to preach the love of God. An incident can settle this argument as in John.


John 8 
3 And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,
4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.
5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?
6 This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.
7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
8 And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.
9 And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.
10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?
11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.


The Pharisees and the Scribes brought to fore this Adulteress who was caught in the very act. They wanted to stone her to death. Jesus did not allow the Pharisees and the Scribes to stone the woman to death; although it was supposed to happen per the old testament. This is the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Christians follow Christ and his teachings; the Old Testament period was when there was no law in the world, no governance and societies were loaded to the hilt with adulterated morals, incest, homosexuality, murders, loot, rape, human sacrifices, first born child sacrifices, etc., Yes Books of Moses; also considered to be a prophet for Islam was ordered by God to wage war on these corrupted races and practices. 


Don't we read in the history that Jewish male children were killed in Egypt?  When they escaped by the Red Sea into the Sinai peninsula [or] the wilderness of Sinai; they were hounded by the people loyal the varied Arabian idols of that time? Moses was pleading with God every time to help him wage war when he was mightily outnumbered. God helped him every time and guided him to the promised land of Cannan [Today Israel].  Jesus Christ never advocated waging war; in fact the lessons that he taught his disciples were that of the above versus and those below.


John 18:10-11 10 
Then Simon Peter having a sword drew it, and smote the high priest's servant, and cut off his right ear. The servant's name was Malchus.
11 Then said Jesus unto Peter, Put up thy sword into the sheath: the cup which my Father hath given me, shall I not drink it?
Matthew 26:52 
Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword. 

CONCLUSION

Where is the Religion of Peace; is that when the Prophet and the God of Quran advocate slaughter, beheading, war, killing? Why does not your ind ponder the thought of this "Peace"? This is not peace. This is not.

Call it the Religion of Islam, the religion of Muhammad, the religion of Mecca, the religion of Quran. No qualms. Just do never call and mention Islam as the Religion of Peace. The peace mentioned in Quran runs only in one area and quoting 

Only Jesus can give you peace; true peace. Jesus was the only and last chance for anyone living to enter into the kingdom of God. There shall and will and is no other way. repent and get saved today; go to the nearest "Full Gospel" Church today; get a copy of the King James Version of the Bible, open the scriptures that was revealed by God well before Muhammad was born. Get Saved. This is the period of Grace and there will be forgiveness.

And if you accept Jesus Christ; the Islamic threat looms as threatened by the Prophet himself. 

Quoting:

http://www.cmje.org/religious-texts/hadith/bukhari/052-sbt.php#004.052.260

Some Hadith references:

Bukhari, volume 9, #57
Narrated Ikrima, "Some atheists were brought to Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn Abbas who said, "If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah's messenger forbade it, saying, "Do not punish anybody with Allah's punishment (fire)." I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah's Messenger, "Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him."
Bukhari, volume 9, #58
Narrated Abu Burda, "Abu Musa said.....Behold there was a fettered man beside Abu Musa. Muadh asked, "Who is this (man)?" Abu Musa said, "He was a Jew and became a Muslim and then reverted back to Judaism." Then Abu Musa requested Muadh to sit down but Muadh said, "I will not sit down till he has been killed. This is the judgment of Allah and his messenger," and repeated it thrice. Then Abu Musa ordered that the man be killed, and he was killed.

But Jesus Christ will protect and save. Even if we die we die for the Glory of the Kingdom of God. Love your enemies till the last minute of your life. Jesus says in the Gospel that the War is not and never with Flesh. Its against the powers and the principalities.
Jesus Christ says in John 19:10-11 "¹¹ Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin."Again in John 14:16-1816 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.Luke 12:7  "But even the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear not therefore: ye are of more value than many sparrows." 
He assures the Holy Spirit; as in the day of Pentecost in the upper room. He says "I will come to you".

The peace of our Lord & Savior Jesus Christ be with you, Amen. 

Christians are Idolatrous, Islam is not! Is it?

Christians are Idolatrous.

Islam is not! Is it?

Islam often accuses Christianity of Idol worship and brands them as Idolaters taking into the account of the worship methods instituted by the Roman Catholic Church with the pagan mixtures and concoctions.

Opening the hard leather of the Bible one can witness from times before Muhammad or the 1st Pope was born; the commandments ban any form of Idol worship.

IDOLATRY & THE BIBLE


Does Bible accommodate Idolatry? 

The Straight answer is "NO".

The Oxford dictionary defines an idol as: “An image used as an object of worship. A person or thing that is the object of excessive devotion.”

So an Idolater is a devoted admirer of idols but what does the Bible say about images and idols?

1. Exodus 20:4-5
“Thou shalt not MAKE unto thee ANY graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not BOW DOWN thyself to them Nor SERVE them.”
2. Leviticus 26:1
“You shall make you NO IDOLS nor GRAVEN IMAGE. Neither rear you up a STANDING IMAGE. Neither shall ye set up any IMAGE OF STONE in your land to bow down unto it.”
3. Deuteronomy 4:16
“Lest ye corrupt yourselves, and MAKE you a GRAVEN IMAGE, the similitude of ANY FIGURE, the likeness of MALE or FEMALE.”
4. Deuteronomy 16:22
“Neither shalt thou SET thee UP ANY IMAGE: which the Lord thy God HATES.”
5. 1 Thessalonians 1:9
“How ye turned to God FROM IDOLS to serve the living and true God.”
6. Deuteronomy 27:15
“CURSED be the man that MAKES ANY GRAVEN or MOLTEN IMAGE, an abomination unto the Lord, the work of the hands of the craftsman, and putteth it in a secret place.”

Galatians 5
19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Ephesians 5
5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.

Clearly the BIBLE states that Idolatry and idolators will not take you to the Kingdom of Heaven. 

JEWISH 10 COMMANDMENTS

1. Belief in G-d
This category is derived from the declaration in Ex. 20:2 beginning, "I am the L-rd, your G-d..."
2. Prohibition of Improper Worship
This category is derived from Ex. 20:3-6, beginning, "You shall not have other gods..." It encompasses within it the prohibition against the worship of other gods as well as the prohibition of improper forms of worship of the one true G-d, such as worshiping G-d through an idol.
3. Prohibition of Oaths
This category is derived from Ex. 20:7, beginning, "You shall not take the name of the L-rd your G-d in vain..." This includes prohibitions against perjury, breaking or delaying the performance of vows or promises, and speaking G-d's name or swearing unnecessarily.
4. Observance of Sacred Times
This category is derived from Ex. 20:8-11, beginning, "Remember the Sabbath day..." It encompasses all mitzvot related to Shabbat, holidays, or other sacred time.
5. Respect for Parents and Teachers
This category is derived from Ex. 20:12, beginning, "Honor your father and mother..."
6. Prohibition of Physically Harming a Person
This category is derived from Ex. 20:13, saying, "You shall not murder."
7. Prohibition of Sexual Immorality
This category is derived from Ex. 20:13, saying, "You shall not commit adultery."
8. Prohibition of Theft
This category is derived from Ex. 20:13, saying, "You shall not steal." It includes within it both outright robbery as well as various forms of theft by deception and unethical business practices. It also includes kidnapping, which is essentially "stealing" a person.
9. Prohibition of Harming a Person through Speech
This category is derived from Ex. 20:13, saying, "You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor." It includes all forms of lashon ha-ra (sins relating to speech).
10. Prohibition of Coveting
This category is derived from Ex. 20:14, beginning, "You shall not covet your neighbor's house..."

THE CHRISTIAN 10 COMMANDMENTS

1. You shall have no other gods before me.
2. You shall not make for yourself any carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.
3. You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.
4. Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your manservant, nor your maidservant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.
5. Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you.
6. You shall not murder.
7. You shall not commit adultery.
8. You shall not steal.
9. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
10. You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.”

Now going back to the 10 Commandments of Jews and Christians we see there is uniformity. But below we have the 10 commandments of the Roman Catholic Church. The commandment on Graven Images is absent. Christians should note that the Catholic Church is not the representative of all Christians but only a separate practice of worship, this similar to Islam, Mormon or any other Judeo-Christian based concoction. 

“The Pope is of great authority and power, that he is able to modify, declare, or interpret even divine laws. The Pope can modify divine law, since his power is not of man, but of God, and he acts as vicegerent of God upon earth...” — Lucius Ferraris, in “Prompta Bibliotheca Canonica, Juridica, Moralis, Theologica, Ascetica, Polemica, Rubristica, Historica”, Volume V, article on “Papa, Article II”, titled “Concerning the extent of Papal dignity, authority, or dominion and infallibility”, #30, published in Petit-Montrouge (Paris) by J. P. Migne, 1858 edition. Hence the commandments were edited to accommodate Idolatry. 

THE CATHOLIC 10 COMMANDMENTS

[http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/command.htm]
1. I am the LORD your God: you shall not have strange Gods before me.
2. You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.
3. Remember to keep holy the LORD'S Day.
4. Honor your father and your mother.
5. You shall not kill.
6. You shall not commit adultery.
7. You shall not steal.
8. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
9. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife.
10. You shall not covet your neighbor's goods.

(1) What are the differences between them?
(2) What changes did the Catholic Church make to the Jewish version?
(3) Why would the Catholic Church make those changes?
(4) What changes to the Catholic version did the Protestants make?
(5) Why would they have made them?
(6) Is the Protestant version more similar to the Catholic or Jewish version?
(7) Which version would Jesus have known and which one would he have recommended?

Understanding is to be established here that the Pope is not the authority or the head of the Global church. He is head of the Roman Catholic Religion that is another extract of Christianity and not the full Christianity.

The Churches that do not practice Idolatry are the Evangelical Churches, Pentecostal Apostolic Churches and Protestant Churches. These churches have an unedited / unmodified 10 Commandments. These 10 Commandments are the same as its in the ancient scriptures still used by Jews.

Only the Roman Catholic Church adopts Idolatry and have their own version of the Ten Commandments, the second Commandment on idolatry stands edited. Per (1 John 3:4)

"Therefore, my beloved, flee from idolatry," (1 Cor. 10:14). Hence Catholics are requested to flee from Idolatry by Bible and Jesus Christ. Roman Catholics worshiping Idols does not constitute that Christians are Idolaters or Jesus Christ allowed it; we got to read the scriptures. Just because you have one muslim thief or a christian robber does not mean religion is such. We only pray for them to accept the truth.

TIMELINE OF INSPIRED & PERSPIRED TEXTS


Again everyone knows that the Christian 10 commandments and Catholic 10 Commandments came into being only after the Jewish 10 Commandments given by God to Moses the prophet. Hence the pre-existing nature of the Jewish 10 Commandments is original, as Jesus himself would have seen it 2000 years ago and practiced. Edition was done only by the Roman catholic church here to accommodate the practice of worshiping idols. The edition was done by the Roman Catholic church only to accommodate the practices and rituals of the Babylonian influence.

More than the Bible, Torah, even Hinduism in some of the Vedic scriptures ask people to shun away from Idolatry.

Having said this; we have a few historical facts with evidences that open doubts on the way Islam is practiced and throws open a super pandora box as below.

IDOLATRY IN ISLAM?

1. Although traditionally Muhammad and his band of followers have not openly advocated practices of idolatry, we still see that the Muhammad's act of Venerating a stone by kissing and keeping it in the Kaaba going against the teachings of God. It was just a stone, why kiss it? why venerate it? why keep it inside four walls? and ask all the followers to bow towards the wall? why that is sacred? is it not just a piece of stone or meteorite? then what is the difference between Idol and a Venerated Stone?

2. Every Muslim head bows towards this Kaaba indicating deepest respects to the location and stone that is inside this Kaaba; there is nothing else in Kaaba than the walls and the stone. This stone is that of an Idol predating the Islam and Muhammad himself. Muhammad called this piece of stone "Yamin Allah" (the right hand of God)". If stones and symbol worship is not allowed then why retain that stone? why that location of Kaaba?

3. Why the symbol of the Moon over minarets? What does that signify? Why is it that God was again symbolized? Praying to the moon god existed before the time of Muhammad. Why was that incorporated into Islam? Why then in the Quran there are many instances that people swear by the Moon? Why was this pre-Islamic deity of Moon God was absorbed into the Quran ad in Islam? There is no significance of Moon as related or referred by any other Prophet then how will this be a probability that Muhammad was passionate about this moon's incorporation into his scripture?

4. Why circle Kaaba for salvation? how does one get salvation by circling a building? is this not worship of a place? Dont we know that the Kaaba once had 360 different idols that the native Arabians used even before Muhammad's grandfather was born?

Questions that I have and answers available; will publish the research findings only referring proven and recorded history and the scriptures themselves. In the next article.

Till then, let the Grace of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ be with you all.

Only Begotten Son? Did I hear it correct?

Only Begotten Son? Did I hear it correct?

Question: "What does it mean that Jesus is God's only begotten son?"

Answer: The phrase “only begotten Son” occurs in John 3:16, which reads in the King James Version as, "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life." The phrase "only begotten" translates the Greek word monogenes. This word is variously translated into English as "only," "one and only," and "only begotten."

It's this last phrase ("only begotten" used in the KJV, NASB and the NKJV) that causes problems. False teachers have latched onto this phrase to try to prove their false teaching that Jesus Christ isn't God; i.e., that Jesus isn't equal in essence to God as the Second Person of the Trinity. They see the word "begotten" and say that Jesus is a created being because only someone who had a beginning in time can be "begotten." What this fails to note is that "begotten" is an English translation of a Greek word. As such, we have to look at the original meaning of the Greek word, not transfer English meanings into the text.

So what does monogenes mean? According to the Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature (BAGD, 3rd Edition), monogenes has two primary definitions. The first definition is "pertaining to being the only one of its kind within a specific relationship." This is the meaning attached to its use in Hebrews 11:17 when the writer refers to Isaac as Abraham's "only begotten son." Abraham had more than one son, but Isaac was the only son he had by Sarah and the only son of the covenant.

The second definition is "pertaining to being the only one of its kind or class, unique in kind." This is the meaning that is implied in John 3:16. In fact, John is the only New Testament writer who uses this word in reference to Jesus (see John 1:14, 18; 3:16, 18; 1 John 4:9). John was primarily concerned with demonstrating that Jesus was the Son of God (John 20:31), and he uses this word to highlight Jesus as uniquely God's Son—sharing the same divine nature as God—as opposed to believers who are God's sons and daughters through faith.

The bottom line is that terms such as "Father" and "Son," that are descriptive of God and Jesus, are human terms used to help us understand the relationship between the different Persons of the Trinity. If you can understand the relationship between a human father and a human son, then you can understand, in part, the relationship between the First and Second Persons of the Trinity. The analogy breaks down if you try to take it too far and teach, as some Christian cults (such as the Jehovah’s Witnesses), that Jesus was literally "begotten" as in “produced” or “created” by God the Father.

http://www.gotquestions.org/only-begotten-son.html

Thanks to gotquestions for their research on this and the other so many articles that reinforce the belief in christ.
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Back to subject.

I was searching for the meaning "Begotten"

Mirriam-webster gave me this...


Definition of BEGET
transitive verb
1: to procreate as the father : sire
2: to produce especially as an effect or outgrowth
— be·get·ter noun


Examples of BEGET
He died without begetting an heir.
<one change in the natural environment will beget others>


Origin of BEGET
Middle English begeten, alteration of beyeten, from Old English bigietan — more at get
First Known Use: 13th century


Synonyms: effect, breed, bring, bring about, bring on, catalyze, cause, create, do, draw on, effectuate, engender, generate, induce, invoke, make, occasion, produce, prompt, result (in), spawn, translate (into), work, yield


Related Words: ingenerate; conduce (to), contribute (to); decide, determine; begin, establish, father, found, inaugurate, initiate, innovate, institute, introduce, launch, pioneer, set, set up, start; advance, cultivate, develop, encourage, forward, foster, further, nourish, nurture, promote; enact, render, turn out

Then Thesaurus gave me this...


Example Sentences:
    Having begotten a good speller is no small matter to a writer.
    God gave his only begotten son to reconcile mankind to himself, and held irony in reserve.
    Together, the two hits have begotten more science fiction for this fall than audiences have seen on the networks in years.


be·got·ten or be·got; be·get·ting.
1. (especially of a male parent) to procreate or generate (offspring).
2. to cause; produce as an effect: a belief that power begets power.


Synonyms
1.  spawn, sire, breed, father. 2.  occasion, engender, effect, generate.


Word Origin & History
beget
O.E. begietan "to get by effort, find, acquire, attain, seize" (class V strong verb, p.t. begeat, pp. begeaton), from be- + get (q.v.). Sense of "to procreate" is from c.1200. Related to O.H.G. pigezzan, Goth. bigitan "to get, obtain."

Now, beget-begotten all relate to 'produce'; certainly not any necessity to have any sexual intercourse to produce. The language according to the creators of the English language indicate that it means "to get". Now why can't God almighty GET the Child he wanted without any physical human intercourse?

Those disputing this actually recommend that God is incapable of "GETTING" or "BEGETTING" a child without intercourse? Do we human being define God's capability? We ought to measure our words then; in anyways the Baby 'Jesus Christ' was carried in the womb, what you may call of it? Its 'begetting' and cannot be attributed to planted, grown, emerged, sprout, jump, arrive, abracadabra, boing, toing... its only Begotten.

In the entire history of universe, God does Beget only one person and that is Jesus Christ; and if you still believe that Begetting means getting a child from sexual relationship. You may have to seriously address your English skills or regret that you be could have been begotten in an English family.

Deliberation on this topic is as baseless and is a reject. I am stunned to see so many viral videos on Youtube from Bible haters profusely swearing over this topic and absolutely ignorant Christians remaining silent. Advice would be is to learn what the Bible says first, get strength in the scriptures and in the Holy ghost before attending these deliberations.

Would also recommend reading the "Son of God" article.

I was looking at the scripture Psalm Chapter 2 Verse 7

I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.

Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.

Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.

Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.

Here quite strongly the prophecy declares the arrival of Jesus Christ. David was not begotten of LORD, he was begotten of Jesse, Jesse was his biological father. Jesse was not the LORD GOD. For more information on Jesus in Old Testament, refer article 'Jesus, the Prophet?'

Denials after denials would lead us to the hell's gates. Time to introspect and review our beliefs and scriptures to arrive at any conclusion.

Is Mohammed in the Bible? Solomon 5:16!

Is Mohammed in the Bible? Solomon 5:16!

Does the Name of Muhammad Appear in Song of Solomon 5:16?

Song of Solomon 5 Verse 16
"His mouth is sweetness itself; he is altogether lovely. This is my lover, this my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem."

This is from the Song of Solomon [or] the Song of Songs. 

Historical Background:

Aleppo Codex Joshua - Circa 900 BC

The name of the book ("The Song of Songs of Solomon") comes from a superscription: "The song of songs, which is Solomon's."

The Song of Songs of Solomon, commonly referred to as Song of Songs (Hebrew: שִׁיר הַשִּׁירִים Šîr haŠîrîm, LXX Greek: ᾎσμα ᾎσμάτων Aisma Aismatōn, Vulgate Latin: Cantĭcum Canticōrum), or Song of Solomon, is a book of the Old Testament—one of the megillot (scrolls)—found in the last section of the Tanakh, known as the Ketuvim (or "Writings"). It is also known in English as Canticle of Canticles or simply Canticles.

Song of Solomon is a poetic love story between the Beloved and her Lover. It is a piece that explores the beauty of a marriage relationship between a king and his wife. Certain Christians also refer this the prophesy of Jesus Christ and Church. Jews refer it to the love song between Solomon and his many wives. Authorship is attributed to Solomon the King

The Song of Songs was written circa 900 BC, in the northern dialect of ancient Hebrew, by an author of unsurpassed literary ability, adept at the techniques of alliteration and polyprosopon, able to create the most sensual and erotic poetry of his day, and all the while incorporating into his work a subtext critical of the Judahite monarchy in general and Solomon in particular.

We cannot change the adjectival clause "altogether lovely" can be changed to a proper noun, "Muhammad." The text, they state, should then read, when translated into English:

"His mouth is sweetness itself; he is Muhammad. This is my lover, this my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem."

What, then, is this prophecy saying? The stressed words in the text above are the English renderings of the Hebrew word, machmad. Strong's concordance and meaning of this word machmad is defined as: desire, desirable thing, a pleasant thing, goodness.

So, can machmad signify Muhammad? 

The word machmad appears another twelve times in the Old Testament. Intent on finding the Arabic name of Muhammad in the Hebrew word machmad, it is important that they remain consistent. Therefore, printing few of the twelve verses below and leave it to you to ascertain whether they fit. (Note: There has been complete consistency in now translating this word; just as it was done in translating the Song of Solomon verse)

1 Kings 20 Verse 6
Yet I will send my servants unto thee to morrow about this time, and they shall search thine house, and the houses of thy servants; and it shall be, that whatsoever is pleasant in thine eyes, they shall put it in their hand, and take it away.

2 Chronicles 36 Verse 19
And they burnt the house of God, and brake down the wall of Jerusalem, and burnt all the palaces thereof with fire, and destroyed all the goodly vessels thereof.

Isaiah 64 Verse 11
Our holy and our beautiful house, where our fathers praised thee, is burned up with fire: and all our pleasant things are laid waste.

Lamentations 1 Verse 11
11All her people sigh, they seek bread; they have given their pleasant things for meat to relieve the soul: see, O LORD, and consider; for I am become vile.

Ezekiel 24 Verse 21
 21Speak unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will profane my sanctuary, the excellency of your strength, the desire of your eyes, and that which your soul pitieth; and your sons and your daughters whom ye have left shall fall by the sword.

There are other seven references which employ machmad and see for yourself whether Muhammad would fit. They are: Isaiah 64:11, Lamentations 1:10, Lamentations 2:4, Ezekiel 24:16, Ezekiel 24:25, Hosea 9:6, Hosea 9:16 and Joel 3:5.

One more good look at it with another perspective...

Song of Songs 5 Verse 16

"His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem."

 

Problem:

The underlined word is the Hebrew Machmaddim. Its is thereby claimed that this word is a reference to Muhammad for two reasons,

1. The word Machmad (singular of Machmaddim) sounds a bit like the name Muhammad
2. The word Machmad means The praised one (i.e. the one worthy of praise); this, they assert, must be Muhammad!

 

Solution:

1. The logic of the assertion that the word Machmad is Muhammad because the two words sound a bit similar is somewhat specious. The name John sounds a bit like the Arabic Jinn, but there is no connection between the two. Similarly a connection on the grounds that the word means "the praised one" falls short of a guaranteed logical link; has only one person in the world ever been praised?
2. The context of the passage identifies the person described as Machmad as someone in the time of Solomon (Song 3:11) who is loved by a Shulamite (Song 6:13). He is red-haired (Song 5:10). None of these descriptions fits Muhammad who never visited Shunem in his life.
3. A search of all the occurrences of the word Machmad in the Bible shows that the word has nothing to do with praise. It simply refers to whatever is desirable for whatever reason and is derived from the root chamad which means desire.

The word Machmad claimed to Muhammad appears in many other places in the scriptures and meaning that are not appropriate for any man. The others tell one that Machmad was destroyed (2 Chron. 36:19), was to be laid waste (Isa. 64:10-11), has been taken captive by an enemy (Lam. 1:10), has been traded for food (Lam. 1:11), has been slain by God (Lam. 2:4; Hos. 9:16), has been removed by God (Ezek. 24:16), is to be profaned by God (Ezek. 24:21), is to be buried in nettles (Hos. 9:6) and been carried away by pagans into their temples (Joel 3:5). So, this word 'Machmad' does not mean in any way Muhammad's name.

If its true then we may also want to take to value conversely, a Hindu could claim that in Sura 30:1, the word al-rum (for Romans), which can be written Ram, must be referring to the Hindu deity Rama?

One more thought that strikes is how Islamists try and prove from the Bible the text. This is purely because the Bible does not need any support as its self sufficient, with original authored manuscripts available in Israel, archaeological evidence ridden, prophecy fulfilled and fulfilling, Word of God. 


Quran needs references, Muhammad needs references. Because it talks about the same God of Israel but customized to suit  the conquests, expansions, of one man. If its everything in everything; why does everyone want to cling to the Bible to assert genuinity; is that not a reference and the acknowledgement that Quran stands empty without the earlier word of God. Well to support this, even Muhammad himself is commanded by God thus [as per his recording in Quran]...


"ALLAH is HE besides Whom there is none worthy of worship, the Living, the Self-Subsisting and All-Sustaining. HE has sent down to thee the Book containing the truth and fulfilling that which precedes it; and HE has sent down the Torah (Law of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus) before this, as a guidance to the people; and HE has sent down the Discrimination (judgement between right and wrong)."— Qur'an, Surah 3:3-4


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